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While Episode 163 was being recorded in Detroit, Ken was visiting Dan down in Phoenix where they met up with Eric from Tap That AZ, and Arizona based craft beer podcast with well over 100 episodes covering the mass growth of craft beer down in Arizona!  This was the second of two special episodes recorded down there along with Episode 163.5 with our friends from The Shop Beer Co.  Check out both that episode and this one as we try AZ beer and learn the differences between the scenes!

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By Ken

A craft beer fan since 19, used to look for your non-regular beers on frequent trips to downtown Windsor with friends, at 21 Ken basically took over an entire refrigerator with monthly visits to Merchants. With 5 years of podcasting prior, Ken decided to create the brand and show Better on Draft in the spring of 2015, and began creating his dream of a beer-centric website that wasn't too full of itself. He now runs the board and does a lot of the back office stuff while the show goes on, keeping everyone in line, and the beer flowing!

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